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Investigation into Fenner windmill collapse focuses on turbine=20 foundations
By Alaina=20 Potrikus / The Post-Standard
May 12, 2010, 11:11PM
As experts hone in on what =
caused a=20
187-ton windmill to collapse in a Fenner cornfield last year, developers =
are=20
moving forward with a plan to get the rest of the wind farm=92s 19 =
turbines safely=20
spinning as early as mid-July.
Turbine 18
In the weeks after the accident,
While =
the final=20
cause has not yet been determined, forensic engineers have been able =
eliminate=20
the theory that the failure was caused by construction materials or=20
methods.
=93We are confident that the foundations were =
constructed right in=20
the first place,=94 project manager Steve Pike said Wednesday night =
during a=20
meeting attended by about two dozen people who packed a small room in =
Fenner=20
Town Hall.
=93We=20
had to assume the worst =97 that the other turbines were seconds away =
from having=20
the same problem,=94 Pike said. =93We stopped generating at great =
expense because=20
public safety and understanding why the turbine failed was the most =
important=20
thing.=94
While the engineers continue to dig into the tower=92s =
design and=20
historic loads, work crews will begin reinforcing the foundations of the =
remaining 19 windmills, excavating soil in early June and pouring =
additional=20
concrete that will be tied to the existing foundations with steel=20
dowels.
=93While some look the same as the day we put them in, =
some have=20
degradation that has started,=94 Pike said of the foundations of the =
remaining=20
windmills. =93The conditions vary. The first step in getting the park =
back online=20
is to move forward with strengthening the other =
foundations.=94
The=20
turbines are expected to come back online in batches, with the first =
blades=20
spinning by mid-summer and the park completely operational by early=20
fall.
Pike said the developer is also considering replacing =
Turbine 18=20
with a newer model that could possibly tie into efforts to create a =
solar power=20
farm in Fenner.
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It was all the lib hot air coming out of nearby Cazenovia that = brought it=20 down
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I truly love how people like you still act like a 4 year old. No one = wants to=20 play with you so you do nothing but sit on the sidelines and throw = insults.
Why is it people like you think that you are so superior that you can = label=20 ALL Liberals ALL the time as something that should be outlawed? Is it = because=20 you finally realize that the Repulsive Party Cult is a JOKE. That your = Elected=20 Representatives have NO IDEAS, NO CLUES, NO INSIGHT on what to do to = solve=20 problems in this Country? You sit back and try to win more = representation by=20 making yourself surperior in your own little mind.
People like you hate Liberals for what we are, and we hate = Conservative for=20 what they have DONE. So who is really more of a Christian? It certainly = is not=20 you.
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Pogo, isn't that the pot and the kettle thing. Those on either side = that are=20 so partisan, that they constantly berate the other side are the = problem.
The only way anything will ever get done, or make this world better, = is for=20 both sides to come back from the fringes and work together with = cooperation,=20 respect, and honesty, with no agenda, or wish for uncontrolled = power.
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No way, pogoaddict, everyone knows that if they had used proper, = American,=20 conservative concrete and steel, this would have never happened. This is = what=20 happens when you use those naughty, un-American liberal materials.
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Nah, It's that fine Chinese steel we've been using = lately.........
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That would be Maoist steel, or market socialist steel. Where that = falls into=20 the whole liberal/conservative debate depends on your point of view, I = guess.=20
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well i'm glad someone figured out to focus on the foundations?? duh. = i mean=20 what kind of an engineer can't tell how a tree fell over??? there's not = too many=20 choices there, fellas. i see some good old fashioned CYA going on here. = how many=20 months have these guys been looking at this?? whoever the reporter is in = this=20 story does not ask the right questions. when you see a huge tree laying = on the=20 ground, it takes one look to see if the roots came out of the ground or = if it=20 broke off at the stump. any farmer can analyze that in less than 5 = seconds. i=20 mean, come on you guys..how did this thing fall over???
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'chain, there are a lot of things that can cause a wind turbine to = collapse,=20 not just a faulty base. For example, the windmills have a maximum wind = speed,=20 where if the blades don't feather above that limit, the loads can cause = the=20 blades to break or the tower to collapse...
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i hear you brew. i guess i should have clarified my comment. my = question is=20 ..did the concrete come out of the ground? did the j bolts pull out of = the=20 concrete? did the flange strip the nuts off the bolts? i do know that = there can=20 be many REASONS for a collapse but there are only a few causes for this = tower to=20 fall over. the articles i have read do not say what should be an obvious = observation. unless i missed something.
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i hear you brew. i guess i should have clarified my comment. my = question is=20 ..did the concrete come out of the ground? did the j bolts pull out of = the=20 concrete? did the flange strip the nuts off the bolts? i do know that = there can=20 be many REASONS for a collapse but there are only a few causes for this = tower to=20 fall over. the articles i have read do not say what should be an obvious = observation. unless i missed something.
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Can you say Vibration...anything that spins has some vibration to it. = It=20 really comes down to how much at what frequency and did it change from = when it=20 was first installed to the time it collapsed. If the vibration loosened = hardware=20 which would increase vibration.
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Posted by Andy
May 13, 2010, 7:44AM
Cloverfield monster. Only logical excuse for this.
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lmao @ Andy.... that's great!
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Well now there is another PROBLEM that they havent reported on... All =
of the=20
remaining windmills now have a "snow" fence barrier around them so that =
if one=20
does fall over anything outside the fence will be safe. The one major =
problem=20
with this is... MOST of these windmills are placed in Farmers Fields. =
They did=20
not Lease this land from the farmers, only the little bit that the =
windmill is=20
standing on.
Now they have fenced off alot of land that the =
farmers cant=20
plant on until this is resolved. Some farmers have gone through and tore =
down=20
the fencing, others have accepted the JOKE of a compensation that the =
company=20
has offered for their perspective crop value, but many of them Dont know =
what to=20
do, they need that land for the crops to feed cattle.
Just another example of Corp. America killing off the Farmer
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I saw the lower section of the turbine tower on a flatbed last week. = Four and=20 a half months and and not a milliwatt generated. It took two days for = engineers=20 to put up a bridge across the Rhine almost 65 years ago. How long until = the=20 Fenner folly starts up again?
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